Coast and Country in France

September 7, 2007

Fractional Ownership in Paris

Filed under: Property News, Real-Estate — @ 5:21 pm

I have been involved in the marketing of property in fractional ownership in France and started the first information website www.harmonyownership.com about this interesting way of sharing the real freehold of a property in France early last year.

However, I decided not to jump in the deep end until I had thoroughly researched many of the tax and legal implications fractional ownership has in France. I believe the ways that many offers are being made and the way shares and ownership is structured through American or British companies is going to cause serious problems for the shareholders in a few years time due to the French tax rules.

One person I am following closely and who I believe is offering a very fair and well structured fractional ownership of Paris apartments is an American in Paris, Steve Navaro - you can see his offers through his website at parishomeshares

I plan to be in Paris in the next couple of weeks for a few days, one reason for my visit is to meet Steve and I will report about him and his property offers in this blog

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Capital Gains Tax

Filed under: Property News, Real-Estate — @ 5:21 pm

There are some changes afoot in the tax and social security system for people living in France, things like health charges for early retired new residents and wealth tax. I will write up some notes and references to good sources.

One recurring question is about Capital Gains Tax on selling a second home - as far as I am aware there are no recent (this year) changes and it simply depends on how long you have owned the property, where your main residence is and if you have had allowable works done by an approved registered French builder.

The Notaire dealing with the sale is responsible for decisions on what is due and collecting the tax when you sell.

Her are a couple of recent emails I have had.

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Hi!
We are a US couple who has owned a home in the Ardeche for 6 years. We are interested in selling it and wanted to find out what type of capital gains taxes, and other fees would be involved in this transaction. Is it true that there is a 10% discount off capital gains for every year after 5 yrs that you own the house? Do you have any idea where we can get more information on fees involved and other important information on selling a house in France as an American. Do we need to claim any of this income in the US?

Thanks in advance for your help! We greatly appreciate it.

All the best,
Susie

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Hello Susie,

As a US resident you will pay 33 percent capital gains tax on the difference of the purchase price (including agents and legal fees) and the selling price.

This reduces by 10 percent a year after five full years of ownership, so after the 15th year of ownership (usually in the 16th year) there is no tax due.

The tax is collected by the Notaire handling the sale.

There are no other costs you have in selling, the taxes and Notary fees are paid by the purchaser and the realtors will add their commission to your selling price.

If you have had significant alterations done by a French registered builder (extensions or other added work) the cost of the valid French invoice can be used to reduce tax - but repairs (even major repairs), decoration or work you do yourself cannot be offset.

After French taxes, any profit you make on the sale will need to be declared to the IRS in the USA. I advise professional advice regarding your position in the USA.

Hope this helps - do let me know how you get on

Best wishes

Tony

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NB

The tax due for a European Community resident is 16 percent

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Tony
My wife and I have a ski apartment in Chamonix worth £200,000, which we bought in 1991 for £76,000.  We would like to give it to our four children. We have seen a French Notaire who says we can use “Usufruct” to do this without paying any French tax.  Charges would be £4,000,and it would be no business of the British tax authorities.  Our accountant says otherwise.  She says we would be clobbered for about £40,000 CGT,less indexation and personal allowances.  Can you advise us where to go from here?
David

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Hello David,

The French Notaire is correct as you will have no CGT to pay.

Capital Gains Tax  (TVA in France) on a maison secondaire for a  European resident is 16 percent. However this reduces by 10 percent per annum after the fifth year so after 15 full years there is no CGT to pay on your property as you bought in in 1991. The maximum CGT you would have been under 20000 pounds anyway - your accountant is well out of order.

To use a Usefruct and to transfer this to your children while you have the full use and benefit may be a good idea as this will reduce your capital for wealth tax considerations.

Do let me know how you get on

Sincerely

Tony

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Cost of renovations in France

Filed under: Property News, Real-Estate — @ 5:21 pm

I thought I would publish this reply I made to an enquiry for a property I am selling as I get a lot of questions about the cost of renovations.

There is a big differenc in DIY or home repairs in the UK or USA compared to old houses in Southern France. Houses her eare typically stone built using building techniques which had hardl;y changed for a thousand years. it is hard to date some houses as the contruction and style hardly altered from the 10th to 20th centuries and the massive beams and stones with lime morter and roman tiles are a million miles from timber frames and concrete blocks.

I have seen only too often financial problems when an enthusiastic purchaser starts a renovation project, only to find their money has run out less than a quarter of the way through the project.

The bottom line is that there is no cheap solution, skimp the work or do it badly and the property is probably worth less than you paid for it. Do it well and you will have a gem of a property, but it may not be the bargain it looks at first sight.

Caveat Emptor

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Hi

Please contact me now about medieval house to renovate

medieval house to renovate ref35

What do you anticipate the costs for renovation and what is the availability of craftsman? Thank you.

Carol

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Hello Carol,

It is impossible to give a simple reply to any questions relating to costs, my personal observations suggest that any property in France, to a good standard of occupation and quality, will cost from 2,000 euro per square meter of living area - plus a premium for land/gardens/convenience/etc. This is for property in Languedoc, Paris is from 6,000 to 12,000 euro and prices through France vary from 1,200 euro to 12,000 euro per square meter or more.

I have a lot of property on offer and some interesting old properties are not expensive, but conversion can be expensive - renovation will cost from 3,000 euro per square meter and there is no limit to costs - this particular property is interesting - it is in a super village and has potential. The owner will accept a fair price and you can have a rare property. You could own a nice small property for under 100,000 euro

Always take care selecting work-people, there are many good tradespeople in France, but there are also a lot of fools and rogues - I can advise a little to avoid bad mistakes.

Let me know your wishes

Best Regards

Tony

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